Tuesday, August 9, 2011

LORD NRSINGHA SCARES -- Radha and Krishna away?

NM = Narayana Maharaj
NM: Srila Prabhupada cautioned his followers against seeking divergent instruction. Unfortunately, some devotees did not follow that important instruction and instead became confused and left their spiritual master's society as dissidents. If ISKCON members adhere to the explicit instructions given by the founder-acarya, true gaudiya Vaisnavas will be satisfied.
[PADA: OK, Srila Prabhupada told us, do not consult with the Gaudiya Matha because NONE of them are qualified to be acharyas, such as Narayana Maharaja. And yet the GBC party dissented, they supported Narayana Maharaja (Tamal, Giriraja, etc.). People who supported NM are "dissenters"? Agreed.]
DANAVIR: First Narayan Maharaja said that he was telling something more [different] than what Srila Prabhupada told. Now in contradiction he says that he is non-different from Srila Prabhupada.
[PADA: Good point Danavir, but it was the GBC who said that Narayana Maharaja was their "rasika guru" (who was giving them gopi lila) all along, because Srila Prabhupada had apparently -- not done so. Yet Danavir is correct to say that Narayana Maharaja is contradicting himself by saying: (a) he only follows Srila Prabhupada yet, (b) he is now giving us the higher teachings than Prabhupada gave? So this is a contradiction. And yet PADA has pointed out that both Sridhara and Narayana Maharajas have "contradicted" the entire Vedas, since they endorsed the worship of deviants as "Radha's rasika servants." They have -- insulted, minimized, and degraded the position of guru/ rasika/ gopi lila? And lets not forget that other GBC like Jayapataka called Narayana and Tamal's club "The Gopi Bhava Club" because a sector of the GBC said, none of them are fit for NM's "rasika." So this is another contradiction, if the GBC are acharyas, why are they not qualified to hear "rasika"? Danavir only catches parts of their contradictions.]
DANAVIR: To resolve the two seemingly opposite statements NM proposes that if Srila Prabhupada were present now he would say the same things that NM is saying.
[PADA: Right, Narayana Maharaja has said that his homosexual pedophile guru lineages are bona fide, and "so would Prabhupada." He is attacking Srila Prabhupada.]
DANAVIR: The problem here is that NM says many things which are quite different than what Srila Prabhupada actually said, wrote and did. This leaves us with the choice of putting our trust in a notion of what Srila Prabhupada might have said if he "were here now" or trusting in what Srila Prabhupada actually did instruct. This will become clearer below.
NM: "I want to clarify this for you. If you are doing arati of Krsna and Radha, what is the use of singing to Nrsmhadeva?
[PADA: Because this was the process established by the acharya, he had us sing the Nrsingha prayers to conclude the arati. And now, Narayana Maharaja is attacking the process of worship established by the acharya: Srila Prabhupada. Moreover he is insulting Nrsinghadeva saying, "What is the use of singing to Him"? Yep, it is a waste of time to sing to God! At least, according to NM.]
NM: You should chant the kirtana by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, by Dina Krsnadasa, and others. Srila Narottama has written, Jaya jaya radha-krsna jugala-milana, and we should chant that.
[PADA: No, Srila Prabhupada did not want us to chant these "more intimate" songs about Krishna. And Prabhupada said it would be sahajiya for us to do that. Again, why has NM been teaching the intimate conjugal love songs to -- the homosexual and pedophile guru sabha?]
NM: Suppose your gurudeva wants you to give him some mahaprasadam preparation, and instead you pour cold water on his hand. What is this? It is nonsense.
[PADA: Hmm, so Srila Prabhupada is "preaching nonsense" according to NM! Of course, if NM finds some nice homosexual pedophiles posing as "Radha's servants," he falls off his chair and starts calling them his poojapadas. NM thinks child buggery lineage is "poojapada," and that child buggers are "Krishna's living successors." Even the most degraded homosexuals in San Francisco never say that pedophiles are "God's living successors," because they have some respect for God.]
NM: Prabhupada gave some concession for the beginners. Now, if you are performing arcana and arati of Radha and Krsna, then you should sing the song of that very Radha-Krsna arati. If you are performing the arati of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Jaya jaya gauracandra, at that time why should you chant to Nrsmhadeva?
[PADA: Because, the acharyas have ordered us to do that. And worse, Narayana Maharaja's idea that we have to worship deviants as acharyas is not even found in the process of worship "for beginners." There is no "concession" for worship of deviants as acharyas, and NM has been wrong to say that there is.]
NM: ... We give so much honor to Nrsimhadeva, but in the appropriate time and in accordance with His mood. If we are remembering Nrsimhadeva when we are doing arcana of Radha-Krsna, then Radha and Krsna will go away."
[PADA: Great, if we follow the orders of our guru, then Radha and Krishna will run away? Sorry, Narayana Maharaja's worship of pedophile's project caused all of the devotees to run away, and no doubt, Radha and Krishna ran away once they saw Narayana Maharaja endorsing placing photos of pedophiles next to Radha and Krishna on the altars. We should take away the photo of Nrsihghadeva, and place photos of pedophile on the altars, says NM? Radha and Krishna are running away from this NM -- big time!]
Danavir's Response: In all the ISKCON temples I have visited, prayers to Nrsimhadeva are sung after the arati to the main deities (Gaura Nitai or Radha Krishna) is completed. So there does not seem to be a difference of practice on this issue. NM is saying not to sing the Nrsimha prayers during the arati ceremony and devotees of ISKCON do not.
[PADA: But Srila Prabhupada wanted us to sing that after the main kirtan, and that is what NM is attacking here, NM is saying that Srila Prabhupada is bogus because he introduced the worship of Lord Nrsinghadeva as the end part of the arotike.]
DANAVIR: It seems NM does not approve of having a picture of Lord Nrsimhadeva on the altar.
[PADA: Correct. Narayana Maharaja has direct or de facto ordered that ISKCON has to remove the photos of Nrsinghadeva from the altars, and he said what ISKCON then needs to do is: to place the photos of homosexuals, pedophiles and their crew members on the altars AT KRISHNA'S FEET, because NM thinks Krishna is attracted to worship of "illicits sex with men, women and children."]
DANAVIR: On this point we must defer to Srila Prabhupada's superior judgement who wisely invoked the protection of the sankirtana movement by the presence of the half-man half-lion incarnation.
[PADA: Good.]
Danavir: Directive #1: NM strongly objects to the fact that Srila Prabhupada taught his followers to chant the guruvastakam prayers each morning during mangala arati kirtana.
[PADA: Correct. We keep finding that NM "objects" to the teachings of Srila Prabhupada.]
Danavir: Yet it behooves NM to comprehend that the selection was not an oversight by His Divine Grace, nor was it meant to be but a beginners' exercise meant to be later replaced by some other song. His Divine Grace personally chanted the song when he led mangala arati and he emphasized the importance of singing these prayers daily in his classes: Therefore we sing daily, yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadah. By the mercy of guru, immediately we become, get the mercy of God. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasado yasyaprasadan na gatih kuto 'pi. Yasyaprasadat. By... If guru is not satisfied, then na gatih kuto 'pi. He has no gati. Gati means advancement. He has no advancement. Dhyayam stuvams tasya yasas tri-sandhyam. Therefore this GurvasTaka, samsara-davanala, we have to sing. (Lecture by Srila Prabhupada; October 1, 1972)
[PADA: Good point, these prayers were chanted by Srila Prabhupada himself, and that is why NM attacks Srila Prabhupada, since he did this, then he is bogus.]
Danavir: So the samsara davanala-lidha-loka, these eight stanzas of Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura is very important. We sing daily. That's very good. (Lecture by Srila Prabhupada; November, 30, 1976) The guruvastaka stanzas signify more than simply a song to be sung during arati-they express the priceless formula Srila Prabhupada used for spreading Krishna consciousness throughout the world. He wished that his own disciples and future generations of devotees should inherit this unique gift. When an empowered acarya has established a successful practice, why should it be carelessly abandoned?
Directive #2: NM advocates singing the gaura-arati song during sundara arati when the presiding deities in a temple are Lord Caitanya and Nityananda. When the presiding deities within a temple are Radha-Krishna, NM advocates singing a different song glorifying the pastimes of Radha and Krishna such as Jaya jaya Radha-Krsna jugala-milana. ISKCON temples sing the guruvastaka prayers and the Hare Krishna mantra during mangala arati and they worship Lord Caitanya and Nityananda by singing the gaura arati song (jaya jaya gauracander...) and the maha mantra during sundara arati. Even if the presiding deities are Radha-Krishna, there is no rasa bhasa in singing the gaura arati song during sundara arati because Lord Caitanya is Himself the combined form of Radha and Krishna.
[PADA: Wow! Good job Danavir!]
Danavir: (kiba) jaya jaya goracander aratiko sobha/ jahnavi-taTa-vane jaga-mana-lobha/ jaga-jana-mana-lobha/ All glories, all glories to the beautiful arati ceremony of Lord Caitanya. This Gaura-arati is taking place in a grove on the banks of the Jahnavi [Ganges] and is attracting the minds of all living entities in the universe.
Rather than trying to replace Srila Prabhupada's divine arrangements, it would be far more beneficial for the sannyasi to adopt them himself. NM: "We should try to know Srila Swami Maharaja's real mood. In the morning, at the time of mangala-arati, we sing the kirtanas written by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Dina Krsna dasa and other acaryas. My Guru Maharaja has written a very good mangala-arati song. Why should we not sing that?"
Response: Understandably NM carries particular preferences for how to worship Krishna, suggesting that the song written by his Guru Maharaja should be sung during mangala arati. However, Srila Prabhupada's real mood has already been revealed in the guruvastaka song of Srila Visvanatha Cakravarty Thakura which he found most pleasing. These eight stanzas establish imperative principles of Vaisnavism regarding the spiritual master, Lord Gauranga's sankirtana movement, elevated deity worship, bhagavata prasadam and the conjugal rasa between Radha and Krsna.
I find it, therefore, unreasonable to assume that Srila Prabhupada would wish his disciples to change the standards which he personally inaugurated and bequeathed to ISKCON. NM: "Your Prabhupada was so kind, and therefore he made some concessions. He did not want to disturb anyone. He considered, "Somehow they should chant, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna." After that, however, he said, "You should not commit any offense while chanting." After that he told them, "You should chant with a sense of relationship with Krsna." After that there were so many other things he wanted to tell you. He has written it all in his books, but so many were not intelligent to accept all his teachings. They neglected his words. They never honored the mood of their gurudeva, and thus they very quickly fell down. If those who appear to be in good standing are committing offenses, it is understood that they are also falling. They must be fallen. Those who are sincere grhastha-bhaktas or renunciates will be okay. We should therefore try to know the real deep meaning of what Srila Swami Maharaja has written. If they had followed his orders, I think they would never have fallen down. We must go deeply into his teachings."
[PADA: Just see! Narayana Maharaja is saying that the GBC are acharyas, and now he says, acharyas fall down! Srila Prabhupada says that anyone who says that acharyas fall down is -- a resident of NARAKA (hell)! Gurusuh narah matih -- narakah sah. Narayana Maharaja is saying that gurus are ORDINARY men, who fall down.]

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