Sunday, December 19, 2010

Govinda Sky: Breaking the Hip-Hop Mold



During the many times that he spotted ISKCON devotees chanting in Washington Square Park while growing up in Brooklyn, New York in the late 1960s, Jay Cen could never have imagined that one day he’d be fronting a hip-hop group espousing their teachings.
But they caught his interest. He continued to wonder what they were about when he moved to Boston as a teenager and saw them again at Boston Common. He began to hang around them more, join in the chanting, and purchase Back to Godhead magazines from them.
At home, he pasted the magazine covers on his wall. It was in the midst of the late sixties and early seventies Indian culture explosion, and so sure, this was hip. But it was more than that. Jay felt something stirring in his soul. But for years, he didn’t follow through with it.
“One of my biggest regrets is that if I had been more assertive in my teens, I could have actually met Srila Prabhupada—I could have been at 26 2nd Ave, sitting five feet away from him,” he says now. “But I guess that just wasn’t the way it was supposed to happen. Krishna had a different plan for me.”
Instead, Jay—who was the son of a popular Boston jazz DJ and always had music in his blood—threw himself into music and started a punk rock band called the Deziners with his friend Eddie Kane.
It wasn’t until many years later, in 1995, that the thought suddenly crossed Jay’s mind: “I wonder where the Hare Krishna devotees are these days?” It seemed like a random thought, but only two days later, a devotee walked into the healthfood store where he worked.


The devotee must have been taken by surprise when the moment he walked in the shop clerk suddenly yelled, “Hey!” Where have you guys been?” But he pulled himself together quickly enough and handed Jay a card inviting him to the local Boston temple. Jay visited, and one year later, he became an ISKCON devotee.
In 2006, Jay—now Jaya Madhava Dasa— was visiting his old friend Eddie, when he noticed that Eddie’s fourteen-year-old stepson Trevor had a little recording studio, and was creating beats in it.
“Hey, do you wanna make a track with me?” Trevor asked one day.
“Sure,” said Jaya Madhava.
The song that resulted, “Look to the East,” was a kind of “Eastern philosophy primer” for the yoga community. On it, Jaya Madhava delivers the messages of Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Moses, and Gandhi.
Excited by the track, he suggested to Eddie and Trevor that they start a transcendental Hip-Hop group, and Govinda Sky was born.
Roles were assigned naturally, with Jaya Madhava singing all the choruses and writing the devotional lyrics, Trevor Buckingham—or T-Buck—producing and rapping, and his dad Eddie adding an element generally unheard of in hip-hop—guitar solos.
“They were completely open-minded to my Krishna-focused lyrics,” Jaya Madhava says. “It was something new to them, but they loved it. And they were learning, too—especially Trevor, who was 14 when we started and is now nearly 18. He learned so much about Vaishnavism and Hinduism that he was even getting As on tests about other religions in school!”
Govinda Sky spent a lot of time carefully fashioning their songs—Jaya Madhava is a perfectionist—and it took a year for them to amass enough for their first album. But at last Surrender was released independently in November 2007, through Itunes and Amazon.com.
“We’re the rare Vaishnava act in what’s called positive hip-hop, a genre dominated by Christian groups,” Jaya Madhava says. “Our message is a spiritual one, very different from what you usually hear in commercial hip-hop music—and you won’t find any bad language, misogyny, or gun sound effects on our album!”
Govinda Sky feel some fraternity with the “Krishnacore” bands of the 1990s, such as Shelter and 108, and consider themselves something of a hip-hop straightedge band. “We’re especially reaching out to the young people, our future leaders,” says Jaya Madhava. “In our humble way, we’re trying to steer them away from the materialism that 99% of the hip-hop generation is bent on.”
Govinda Sky has received a lot of positive response for their album Surrender, especially from the yoga community.
The group perform to small audiences of about thirty people at yoga studios around the Boston area. Their shows start off with a traditional kirtan, which, like the band, are a family affair—Chatamayi Dasi, a disciple of Bhakti Tirtha Swami whose son Cole Chadwick has recently become Govinda Sky’s new live drummer, plays the harmonium. Her husband Bhakta Rick plays the mridanga, Jaya Madhava sings, Eddie plays guitar, and Cole plays the African drum.
“Then we go into our hip-hop songs. We try to bring some real positive Vedic energy,” Jaya Madhava says. “A lot of our choruses are in Sanskrit, and sometimes we’ll pass out the words so that people can chant along to them. And unlike 99% of hip-hop groups, we don’t just use a playback CD—we also usually have live mridanga and tabla, kartals, guitar, and now a full drum kit. So that sets us apart from other acts and brings more energy to our set.”
After the shows, many people approach Govinda Sky to ask, ‘Hey, where’s the nearest temple?’ And many are seen at the next Sunday Feast at ISKCON Boston. “We don’t do anything in a heavy-handed way,” Jaya Madhava says. “We just present our Krishna conscious music, and if people like it, they’ll follow through by searching out the nearest temple or listening to other kirtan bands.”
Govinda Sky are also popular at ISKCON festivals, such as last year’s Boston Ratha Yatra festival, with African ISKCON sannyasi Bhakti Vasudeva Swami saying he was “So happy to see that someone was making this kind of Krishna conscious urban music.”
With MC T-Buck busy performing with reggae group Dead Fish, and the rest of the band having a hectic summer, it’s taken Govinda Sky a while to get around to their second album. But they have recently lined up six tracks—with more on the way—and are due to start recording in the fall.
“The new album will be called Into the Ether,” Jaya Madhava says. “The title track is subtitled ‘The Story of Mirabai,’ and is about the female saint who devoted her life to Krishna. Hari Om She Said is about leaving a life of Maya, or illusion, and trying to find yourself. Dance Shiva Dance is a great dance number about the Lord of destruction.”
The album will also feature Gauranga-ji, Jagannath Poetry Slam, and Gita, which has in-depth lyrics about the famous sacred book and its modern teacher, Srila Prabhupada. “Prabhupada is such an inspiration to me,” Jaya Madhava says. “I’ve become a student of him through his books, and have also read the entire Prabhupada Lilamrita and all the other books about his life and travels. Even though I never got to meet him in person, I feel like I know him so well.”

Into the Ether will also touch on social and political subjects in tracks such as “Being Muslim is Not A Crime”—which is Jaya Madhava’s response to the religious bigotry and ‘Islamophobia’ in today’s world—and ‘Let the Animals Keep Their Coats’ an irresistibly catchy reggae track protesting the fur industry.
“Our message has always been one of tolerance—tolerance of all people, all races, all religions,” Jaya Madhava says. “That, delivered along with Krishna consciousness and the Holy Name, is our main goal.”
Govinda Sky will be touring their album locally next year, with hopes to ascend a bigger stage in the future. “People are always asking us, ‘When are you coming to Australia? When are you coming to Mexico?’ and we’d love to,” Jaya Madhava says. “But we just don’t have the capital.”
“We’re not in this for the money, we’re in this to spread spirituality,” he clarifies, but admits: “But if some travel expenses were covered and we had better management than just me, we might be able to do it more.”
He grins. “It’s just so much fun to do,” he says. “It’s a labor of love.”


From: http://news.iskcon.org/node/3138/2010-09-24/govinda_sky_breaking_the_hip_hop_mold#ixzz18XZ6lVY9

Saturday, December 18, 2010

George Harrison on ISKCON Gurus

IRM, Back to Prabhupada
Issue 26/14
While reporting on the 40th anniversary celebrations of ISKCON in the UK for its religious radio show “Sunday”, the BBC made the following comment:
“Like many another fledgling religion, the movement was dogged by doctrinal differences and personality clashes after the death of its charismatic founder in 1977.
There were allegations of child abuse at some of its Indian schools, charges of brainwashing and accusations of financial irregularities, none of which clouded the serenity of the true believers, among whom was the former Beatle George Harrison.”
(BBC “Sunday”, November 21st, 2009)

Yet it appears that George Harrison was in fact not so serene about the state of ISKCON after Srila Prabhupada’s departure, as he revealed in a media interview with The Sunday Tribune in 1987:
“I am always a bit dubious about organisations and since the Swami died it does seem to be chaotic, with all kinds of guys thinking they’re the gurus.
To me, it’s not important to be a guru, it’s more important just to be, to learn humility.”
(George Harrison interview with BP Fallon, The Sunday Tribune, October 18th, 1987)
Hence, even George understood there was a mad rush to become guru, which has currently seen well over 100 individuals putting themselves forward “thinking they’re the gurus”, rather than becoming humble.
Humility means to surrender to the order of the spiritual master, sacrificing one’s own desires. Yet, as documented, these individuals sought to become guru not via any order from Srila Prabhupada, but via getting admittance into the GBC guru club by receiving the necessary number of votes, or being self-appointed.

The Tragic Case of Bhakta v. Guru



 

A response to Yaduvendu Das
The following is a response to an article entitled “The tragic case of Bhakta v Bhakta” by Yaduvendu Das, in which he attacks the IRM for promoting the fact that Srila Prabhupada is the diksa Guru for ISKCON. Statements from Yaduvendu’s article shall be enclosed in brackets thus [ ], with Yaduvendu referred to as the ‘author’.
Yaduvendu concludes his article by saying he finds the position of the IRM:
[naïve, distasteful, low-minded and fanatical.]
The reason for his ire is made very clear right at the outset of his article wherein he states:
[We presently have many devotees who’ve been practising Krishna Consciousness seriously for thirty to forty years. Now in their 50’s and 60’s and having gone through all that life can throw at them, many senior devotees are actually qualified to train newcomers in the art of devotional service. They have matured, suffered defeats and become introspective, some have died and the rest of us are experiencing the fleeting nature of life. We know we have nothing to gain here and must become serious.]
and later on he adds
[Similarly, his senior disciples should take responsibility for initiating newcomers.]
The author Yaduvendu Das, is of course here referring to himself, since he has been a devotee for over 30 years, is in his 50’s, and is presently experiencing the fleeting nature of life as a ‘senior’ devotee.
He then goes onto argue that Srila Prabhupada cannot remain as the diksa Guru for ISKCON and others must be allowed to take his place. In particular, to ensure that even devotees such as himself, who maybe full of faults, can still be allowed to become diksa Gurus, he even states that Srila Prabhupada himself may have faults:
[There is no such thing as a person without faults and if the qualification for training the next generation in Krishna Consciousness is that we must first be free of all faults we are setting an impossible condition that even Srila Prabhupada may not quite live up to.]
However Srila Prabhupada states that a pure devotee is faultless:
“This ecstasy is possible for a devotee who is fully absorbed in incessant thoughts of Krsna. Such a pure devotee of the Lord is naturally *faultless* because he is always associated with the supremely pure Personality of Godhead.”
(S:B, 3.1.32)
Consequently in his desire to open up Guru-ship to anyone such as himself who is in his ‘50’s and 60s’, and who has been a devotee for ‘thirty to forty years’, the author has resorted to implying that Srila Prabhupada may not have been faultless – i.e. not a pure devotee, and therefore a conditioned soul subject to the 4 defects. As well as this insinuation of the author being highly offensive to Srila Prabhupada, motivated as it is by a desire to become Guru, the idea that one can become a Guru simply due to longevity in the movement is of course proven incorrect by the facts. The *oldest* devotee in the movement, Satsvarupa Das, was has been practising for almost 40 years, and is 66, was only recently exposed as having an illicit affair and had to step down from being Guru. Similarly many other recent casualties such as Prithu Das, Vipramukhya Das and Suhotra Das, were all in their 50s and 60s, having been devotees for ‘thirty to forty years’, and all had to step down from the position of Guru relatively recently.
So immediately the main thrust of Yaduvendu’s thesis, viz. that the IRM’s stance is wrong because as long as someone has been a devotee for more than thirty years, they can be Guru, because Srila Prabhupada himself may not have been free from fault – is proven incorrect, and his thesis stands defeated.
However for completeness we will also rebut some of his other points.
[What a shame that devotees – who were once friends, should clash over something as insignificant as a letter written nearly thirty years ago.]
Yaduvendu here refers to Srila Prabhupada’s final directive on initiation issued to the whole movement on July 9th, 1977, in which he sets out how he will remain the diksa Guru for ISKCON via the use of ceremonial priests (ritviks), who would accept disciples on his behalf. His assertion that as this was a letter written nearly 30 years ago it is ‘insignificant’, is absurd for the simple reason that EVERYTHING Srila Prabhupada wrote would have been written ‘nearly 30 years ago’ or more. So either everything Srila Prabhupada wrote is insignificant, or only directives to the whole movement are insignificant. Either way, again the author reveals his contempt for Srila Prabhupada. How can we sing every morning in Guru Puja to Srila Prabhupada that:
“My only wish is to have my consciousness purified by the words emanating from his lotus mouth”
if we simultaneously think that the orders of the spiritual master are insignificant?
And such a faithless disciple, who thinks Srila Prabhupada may have been a conditioned soul, has the audacity to stake his claim on behalf of all the ‘senior devotees’ to become Srila Prabhupada’s successor.
[Okay, I happen to think that the IRM have a basic point and that Srila Prabhupada did not appoint successors in 1977.]
It is acknowledged by all that Srila Prabhupada DID appoint ritviks in the July 9th directive. If Yaduvendu is also acknowledging that these ritviks were NOT also appointed as diksa Gurus, then obviously they can only have remained as ritviks. In which case WHERE is the authority for these ritviks, or anyone else for that matter, to suddenly become diksa Gurus? Yaduvendu here unwittingly supports the IRM’s basic point – that only ritviks were ever authorised by Srila Prabhupada.
[In fact, the disciplic succession has not only been the basis of Vaishnava tradition since time immemorial, but our parampara represents the very authority of the system in that it has been handed down century after century with minimal change. Take that element away and we are left with nothing more than a narrow, sectarian cult.]
Of course no one, except perhaps the author, is proposing that we take away the element of the parampara. The parampara CONTINUES with Srila Prabhupada, just as it continued with Srila Prabhupada in 1966. The author presents no basis for his implied assertion that the parampara would stop if Srila Prabhupada continued to represent it.
[*How many times have we heard that the spiritual master speaks according to time and place?
* How then do you turn an instruction, three decades ago, into an iron rule for all time?]
Well a simple examination of the July 9th directive would reveal the following:
Time: ISKCON’s duration (as issued for application on a permanent basis, since no limited time-frame is given)
Place: ISKCON (as issued for application in ISKCON)
Circumstance: “For the purpose of performing initiations, both first initiation and second initiation” (as stated in the opening of the July 9th directive)
So as long as ISKCON exists, and there is a need for initiation, the directive IS being applied according to time, place and circumstance.
[If Srila Prabhupada wanted to be the only guru for all time and wanted no continuation of the disciplic succession after his departure he could have made his wishes crystal clear, drumming it into us on a daily basis, in his letters, classes and conversations. He didn’t do that and the little he said about it shows how important it was to him.]
It is accepted that Srila Prabhupada established himself as the diksa Guru for ISKCON. Unless this is accepted, the issue of Srila Prabhupada even being replaced as the diksa Guru for ISKCON does not even arise. Hence that fact that Srila Prabhupada is the diksa Guru of ISKCON does not require proving. What does require proving is that Srila Prabhupada should be REMOVED as the diksa Guru for ISKCON. If Srila Prabhupada had wanted this, then he could have made his wishes crystal clear, drumming it into us on a daily basis, in his letters, classes and conversations. He didn’t do that.
And we have already seen that the disciplic succession CONTINUES with Srila Prabhupada, so the idea that Srila Prabhupada acting as the diksa Guru for ISKCON would STOP the disciplic succession has no basis. What the author is actually trying to say, quite bizarrely, is that the lack of a MATERIAL body of a SPIRITUAL master prevents him from acting as a diksa Guru. However the author offers absolutely no proof for such a fanciful suggestion.
[It is simply not appropriate, reasonable or logical for situations change from minute to minute in the material world. So for IRM representatives to say that Iskcon is no longer Prabhupada’s movement and to disturb people’s minds with inflammatory, anti-devotional literature, as they were doing at London’s Ratha Yatra festival is not only objectionable (Hare Krishna’s publicly criticising Hare Krishna’s), but is a crime against Prabhupada, who always sought to present Krishna Consciousness nicely.]
The author again puts forward a contemptible assertion that to unauthorisedly throw Srila Prabhupada out of his own movement and declare he is dead and unavailable as the Guru, (as has been done by the current ISKCON regime which BTP is exposing) is NOT a crime against Srila Prabhupada; but to simply state the truth about Srila Prabhupada is!
[Guru abuse is destructive because it causes devotees to lose faith in the process. But the IRM solution of broadcasting devotee’s faults in an aggressive and negative way is equally detrimental, as it has the same result.]
We are not broadcasting a devotee’s faults. We are simple repeating the information broadcast by the GBC regarding their unauthorised Gurus. Thus the author needs to take up his complaint with the GBC, who are the source of virtually all our information.
Also it is important that devotee’s DO lose faith in the unauthorised Guru’s and instead develop faith in Srila Prabhupada.
[Truth is likewise to be found in no extreme and Vishnu’s place as the central deity of the tri-murti indicates that the path of bhakti is one of moderation and balance – a middle path between all extremes.]
To say that truth can never be found in an extreme is itself an extreme truth, and therefore the author has contradicted himself. Further the author offers absolutely no evidence for his speculation that truth can only be in the ‘middle’. Truth is to be found in the orders of Srila Prabhupada. We strongly suggest the author consults them, for he has not quoted any such orders even ONCE in his lengthy diatribe against Srila Prabhupada.
[If we therefore apply balanced reasoning we will conclude that Prabhupada should not be the only guru in ISKCON.]
If we therefore apply the instructions of Srila Prabhupada, we would conclude that Srila Prabhupada established himself as the diksa Guru for ISKCON in 1966, sent out a directive that he would continue as such, and never stated anything to the contrary. The only thing the author has applied thus far is a whole string of false and speculative statements, tied together by attacks on Srila Prabhupada for maybe having faults, and on his orders for being insignificant.
So in conclusion, though the author had titled his attack on Srila Prabhupada as being the ‘tragic case of Bhakta v Bhakta’, in reality it should be titled the ‘tragic case of ‘Bhakta v. Guru’, since he who is supposed to be a Bhakta has gone AGAINST his Guru, because he wishes to be Guru himself.

Few Fake Gurus Faces*



ISKCON Gurus

Bhakti Tirtha Swami

Guru Prasad Swami

Bhakti Caitanja Swami

Ravindra Svarupa Prabhu

Bhanu Swami

Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami

Bhakti Marga Swami

Param Gati Swami

Krishna Smita Swami

Dhanurdhara Swami

Shridhara Swami

Radhanatha Swami

Bhakti Caru Swami

Giridhari Swami

Jayapataka Swami

Mukunda Goswami

Tamal Krishna Goswami *

Hridayananda Goswami

Niranjana Swami

Suhotra Swami

Satsvarupa Das Goswami

Lokanatha Swami

Radha Govinda Swami

Gopal Krishna Goswami

Devamrta Swami

Romapada Swami

Bhakti Vikasha Swami

Rohini Suta Prabhu

Bhakti Vaibhava Swami

Sacinandana Swami

Ramai Swami

B.B Govinda Swami

Indradyumna Swami

Prabhavishnu Swami

Maha Vishnu Swami

Shivarama Swami

Kadamba Kanana Swami

Bhakti Bhusana Swami

Danavir Goswami

Gaur Govinda Swami *

Subhag Swami

Kavicandra Swami

Bir Krishna Goswami

Virabahu Prabhu

Dhanvantari Swami

Tvirikrama Swami

Gunagrahi Goswami

Jayadvaita Swami

BVV Narasimha Swami

Bhaktisidhanta Swami

Giriraj Swami
Madhusevita Prabhu
Prahladananda Swami

Matsyavatara Prabhu

 * Dont spit please



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