Iskcon Desire Tree website is not for the real devotees of Srila Prabhupada

ISKCON Desire Tree website which says "Connecting Devotees Worldwide - In Service Of Srila Prabhupada" is not really doing any Service Of Srila Prabhupada. i have some of the evidence to share with you which is surely a fact. the ISKCON Desire Tree claims that its a FREE independent voluntary website engaged in service of ISKCON but when some discussions about guru system arises the next minute you get an Email saying "YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED". The website says that "The content is generated by volunteers from all around the world" and all those volunteers are under the influence of some gurus.


I was just banned from the website receiving a mail which says

from

Anirudh Shetty <idtsevaka@gmail.com>

to

@gmail.com

date

Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:04 AM

subject

Hare Krishna

Hare Krishna,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!
With great regret I have to inform you that we have had to disbar your profile from the ISKCON Desire Tree Network.  As per the official policy, we had to take this action because quite a few members complained against your profile, as they found certain content objectionable.
This does not bar you from participating in the website. Our service is just a small network for devotees to interact, and hence we have to be sensitive to their needs.
But you can continue to interact with us through mail, and many of the sections of the website is still open to you. You can hear lectures, see pictures & videos and access many of the other sections.
We encourage you to please access these facilities and help us to continue serving you that way.
Thank You.
In your service,
Anirudh

Is this mail not rude on your part, see we are devotees and yes, we are preaching about the false iskcon gurus just to realise them and take them towards the real genuine guru srila prabhupada. if the website is developed for the Service Of Srila Prabhupada then they would have had some healthy discussion with me about the issue, but they banned me. 

The first thing what i was surprised was when i was joining the site, see the procedures below

 

if you are done filling this form and post something about guru issue then the next second you'll get this window

So i think people are misusing Srila Prabhupada's name, i hope people working in Iskcon Desire Tree website should wake up

I just hope

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Reply to Sivarama Swami’s Podcast of 15th December, 2010

The following is a response to the above Podcast from His Holiness Sivarama Swami (SRS), and as usual statements from SRS shall be enclosed in tinted panels, with our comments following underneath:

“In terms of practical application, then Srila Prabhhupada points out that in Upadesamrta that someone who’s not an uttama adhikhari, he’s not so good in giving practical guidance because he hasn’t fully realized the teachings that he may know, but he doesn’t have full realization of them. But that still doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t be followed.”

In the portion of the Upadesamrta SRS refers to here, this is what Srila Prabhupada actually states:

“Indeed, the advanced uttama-adhikari Vaisnava devotee should be accepted as a spiritual master. […] One should not become a spiritual master unless he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari. A neophyte Vaisnava or a Vaisnava situated on the intermediate platform can also accept disciples, but such disciples must be on the same platform, and it should be understood that they cannot advance very well toward the ultimate goal of life under his insufficient guidance. Therefore a disciple should be careful to accept an uttama-adhikari as a spiritual master.“
(Upadesamrta – The Nectar of Instruction, Text 5, purport)

Srila Prabhupada is not advising us to follow Kanisthas. On the contrary, because they offer insufficient guidance, Srila Prabhupada tells us to be careful to instead accept an Uttama-Adhikari as a spiritual master.

“And this is what Srila Prabhupada emphasizes everywhere throughout his books, the importance of following the spiritual master, because when you’re following a bona fide spiritual master at whatever his level of spiritual advancement, then you’re following Krishna. And if you’re following Krishna, then you’re going to go back home, back to Godhead.”

In his books, Srila Prabhupada does not state that following anyone, “whatever his level of spiritual advancement”, will lead one to go back to Godhead. Rather, in his books, Srila Prabhupada states the opposite, that the guru must be at least liberated to take us back to Godhead:

“A conditioned soul cannot deliver another conditioned soul. Only Krishna or His bona fide representative can deliver him.”
(Nectar of Devotion, Chapter 9)

“Then there is the conditioned soul, spiritual master who is not situated in the same platform, but because he’s representing Krishna, because he’s following the principle of the guru parampara, therefore he also acts in the capacity of spiritual master. And he may be a madhyama-adhikari, a kanistha-adhikari, a uttama adhikari.”

Though SRS states here that the spiritual master may be a conditioned soul, Srila Prabhupada states the opposite:

“Because one who has understood Krishna in truth, he is liberated person. Therefore he is guru. Guru cannot be a conditioned soul. Guru must be liberated. Because without complete knowledge of Krishna, without being free from the contamination of the three modes of material nature… One cannot understand Krishna on account of his being engrossed with these three material modes of nature.”
(Lecture, 16/2/71)

“Once we accept a spiritual master – you have lots of time to decide who you want to accept – once you accept, you’re accepting someone who you’re going to follow. And if you’re following a fully liberated soul, then you can be assured that the guidance that he gives you will be fully realized and will be faultless. If you’re following a conditioned soul, then you still need to follow and you need to then have faith in the fact that, yoga-ksemam vahamy aham. That Krishna will then carry what you lack. If you need something further in that regard, then Krishna will make the suitable arrangement. But follow we must, because that’s the essential basic principle of Krishna consciousness. Pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya, upadeksyanti te jnana.”

SRS claims that one must follow a conditioned soul as a spiritual master, even though he is not offering “fully realised and faultless” guidance, due to two 2 reasons:

1) That Krishna will make up for the lack in qualification of the spiritual master, and this is stated by Bhagavada Gita 9:22 – “yoga-ksemam vahamy aham”. However, this verse, nor its purport, make any reference to the fact that one may accept an unqualified spiritual master.

2) Because this is the basic principle of Krishna consciousness, and this is stated by Bhagavada Gita, 4:34 – “Pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya, upadeksyanti te jnana”. However this verse states the opposite, since it speaks specifically of following the self-realised spiritual master, rather than SRS’s non-realised spiritual master, who is not “fully realised and faultless”:

“Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.”
(BG, 4:34)

Conclusion

As has been documented in detail on this website, SRS continues non-stop to spout his own “teachings”, which are not only never mentioned by Srila Prabhupada, but often are the exact opposite of what Srila Prabhupada teaches. Again and again he demonstrates that he does not have a grasp of even Srila Prabhupada’s most basic teachings.

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Iskcon temple in Ravet opens

Pune: Devotees gathered in large numbers for the inauguration of Sri Govind Dham, a temple of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (Iskcon) on Wednesday at Ravet, behind the Akurdi railway station.

The Pimpri-Chinchwad mayor, Yogesh Behl, inaugurated the temple on Wednesday.
Various religious and cultural programmes were organised at the temple.
Iskcon's Chaitanya Bal Sanskar class students presented 'Shri Krishna' dance. Sri Govind Dham is the first Iskcon temple in Pimpri-Chinchwad area.
The 50-foot-tall building has wooden carvings and the temple was decorated with colourful lights and flowers for the inauguration.
Iskcon started its socio-religious and cultural activities in the Pimpri-Chinchwad area in 1994.
Over the years, the organisation has established itself as an important institution propagating the knowledge of the Bhagavad Gita.

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Bogus Guru Param Gati Swami attracted to homo sex

Bogus Param Gati "so called" Swami was born on June 29, 1953 in a town Pouso Alegre, Minas Gerais State, Brazil and was brought up in a Catholic family. He took Sannyasa initiation from bogus guru Hridayananda. Param Gati Swami recently made sexual advances to a male devotee, wishing for homo-sex. How can a homo-sex Swami be a renounced sannyasi guru and have disciples?

Param Gati Swami, a so called religious leader of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) is a member of the Governing Body Commission, a sannyasi and an initiating guru in ISKCON. As of 2008, he was the leader of ISKCON in France, Spain, Switzerland, Portugal and Brazil. He cheated all of his disciples by posing to be a guru being worshipped as good as god, despite his homosexual tendencies. (Is god a homo or gay?)

Rock’n'roll guru Param Gati Swami rocks GBC  

In QNN 22, we ran a story about GBC member and voted-in guru Param Gati Swami (”PGS”) and his predilection for dancing at rave parties, and showed a photograph of him engaging in this activity while dressed as a “raver”: We stated: “How can those who are supposed to be self-realised “as good as God” gurus, representing Srila Prabhupada and connecting us to Krishna, be any of these things, if they do not even know the most basic rules of behaviour?” In his defence, PGS argued: “My intention, when I participated in these programs was to be more close to the devotees, ‘less distant’; specially of the young generation.” Now once again BTP, empowered by Krishna to defend Srila Prabhupada from the guru hoaxers, has been proven to be prescient. As the following GBC resolution demonstrates, PGS came just a little too “close to the devotees”:

“The Governing Body Commission of ISKCON wishes to announce that Param Gati Swami has resigned from the GBC and will no longer accept disciples for initiation. The GBC has determined, following a careful investigation, that Param Gati Swami recently made sexual advances to a male devotee. The man did not welcome these advances and matters advanced no further. In pursuance of GBC direction, Param Gati Swami will be staying in Mayapur for the next year for a directed course of counseling and spiritual restoration under GBC supervision. Those who are his initiated disciples should approach their local temple or regional authorities, as well as other trusted senior devotees, for personal guidance and direction. By virtue of strong association with good devotees and a deep relationship with our Founder-acarya Srila Prabhupada, they will be able to overcome any impediment and continue to advance on the path of devotional service.” (GBC Executive Committee, 2009)

1) It may be noted that though PGS has been stripped of his GBC and guru position, he is still allowed to continue as a sannyasi (renunciant) and that he is now undergoing a process of “spiritual restoration”, implying that he could once again be reinstated as a “good as God” guru. If making sexual advances to young devotees under one’s care is compatible with sannyasa status, just as having an affair with a married disciple was in the case of Satsvarupa Das “Goswami” (see BTP 19), we wonder what exactly one has to do before the morally bankrupt GBC will actually rescind one’s sannyasa position?

2) It is also stated that if PGS’s disciples cultivate a “deep relationship” with Srila Prabhupada they will be able to “continue to advance on the path of devotional service” : But then why would one require to get initiated by a GBC guru such as PGS in the first place? Rather, it must be Srila Prabhupada who is the bona fide Guru with whom one can have “a deep relationship” as a direct disciple and thereby “advance on the path of devotional service”, just as Srila Prabhupada himself teaches:

“First we must find a bona fide guru, establish our relationship with him, and act accordingly. Then our life will be successful, for the guru can enlighten the sincere disciple who is in darkness.” (The Science of Self Realization, chapter 2)

By also directing these disciples to take “personal guidance and direction” from all other senior devotees in ISKCON, the GBC resolution also confirms Srila Prabhupada’s statement that only he is the initiator guru, while everyone else in ISKCON including the GBC themselves are simply to act as teachers or instructor gurus:

“The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, August 4th, 1975)

As we can see, Srila Prabhupada is the only authorized and bona fide diksa (initiating) Guru in ISKCON, as the GBC are again forced to admit.

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